'Killer Clown' John Wayne Gacy's death row attorney reveals why he likely had dozens more victims — and help

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John Wayne Gacy killed much than 33 victims, and nan "Killer Clown" didn't do it alone, his lawyer believes. 

Karen Conti was a fledgling lawyer successful nan early 1990s erstwhile she defended nan most infamous serial killer astatine nan clip during his last decease statement appeals from 1993 to his execution by lethal injection May 4, 1994.

Gacy was convicted of 33 murders, but Conti said she's definite location are much victims. 

"I'm almost affirmative astir that," she told Fox News Digital. "Gacy traveled during his crime spree, and he traveled to agrarian areas to do building work. I really saw his business records, which were meticulously kept. 

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John Wayne Gacy's mugshot aft his apprehension successful 1978. (Bureau of Prisons/Getty Images)

"I conscionable can't ideate why he would extremity sidesplitting during that time."

— Karen Conti

"He was gone for 2 aliases 3 weeks astatine a time, and he was successful nan mediate of this crime spree. I conscionable can't ideate why he would extremity sidesplitting during that time."

Almost each of his victims he was convicted of sidesplitting were buried successful his location and passim his Norwood Park Township, Illinois, spot astir 15 miles northbound of Chicago. 

Gacy often traveled to much agrarian areas, according to Conti, which "would person made it easier to solicit, abduct young men and boys and to hide nan bodies."

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"We didn't person a database that was integrated astatine nan time, but my conjecture is that if immoderate podcast aliases sleuth were to spell to these areas and look astatine these business records and effort to fig retired if location were group that went missing, they whitethorn link nan dots and reason that what I'm saying is true," Conti said. 

She believes location are astatine slightest 20 much victims of Gacy's sidesplitting spree that extended beyond nan suburban town's boundaries. 

Karen Conti, a 37-year way lawyer successful nan Chicago area and writer of "Killing Time pinch John Wayne Gacy," talks astir what it was for illustration to correspond 1 of nan astir prolific serial killers successful history.

Karen Conti, a 37-year proceedings lawyer successful nan Chicago area and writer of "Killing Time pinch John Wayne Gacy," talks astir what it was for illustration to correspond 1 of nan astir prolific serial killers successful history. (Karen Conti)

And she's "convinced" Gacy had help, astir apt from 2 men who lived pinch and had activity pinch Gacy during his crime spree.  

"They were taking money and narcotics from him, and they testified astatine proceedings that they really dug nan trenches underneath nan house," Conti said. "To me, it's intolerable for them not to person known what they were doing and why they were doing that. 

"And it's intolerable for maine to judge that Gacy, who was very portly, could really spell down into that crawlspace and transportation bodies down location and hide them alone."

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She referenced a unfortunate who escaped Gacy's clutches successful 1978, Jeffrey Rignall, who had testified during nan proceedings that Gacy utilized a chloroform rag to sound him retired aft offering him a thrust location from a section bar, according to tribunal documents.

He was successful and retired of consciousness during a sadistic intersexual battle detailed successful tribunal documents and woke up adjacent to a statue successful a Chicago park. 

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This is simply a constabulary photograph of John Wayne Gacy, 37, being held for questioning aft nan find of 5 severely decomposed bodies. The bodies, believed to beryllium of young people, were recovered successful nan crawl abstraction of a location owned by Gacy. He operated a building business from his location and employed respective young men, neighbors said. (Getty Images)

During Rignall's testimony, he said Gacy was "aided astatine 1 constituent by an accomplice," which was documented by a West Virginia University investigation paper connected nan insanity defense. 

The investigation insubstantial included a footnote saying nary 1 other was arrested successful nan intersexual battle connected Rignall.

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But prosecutors didn't want to "dirty up" nan lawsuit against Gacy by bringing different suspects into nan picture, Conti told The U.S. Sun successful a March interview. So, imaginable co-conspirators were ne'er introduced.

"It's my really beardown emotion that these 2 young men helped procure nan young men for Gacy and helped necktie them down and possibly moreover thief perpetrate nan crimes, surely helped hide nan bodies," Conti said. 

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Shown are headshots of boys and young men whose bodies person been identified arsenic victims of John Wayne Gacy. Gacy was accused successful nan slayings of 33 boys and young men. (Getty Images)

Debunking nan story of Gacy's past words

Something that stood retired to Conti was Gacy's dry, cynical consciousness of joke that continued to his last moments. 

"Gacy, for each of his evil acts, did not look to beryllium evil, and that is precisely why he sewage distant pinch it," she said. "He was very genial. He was affable. He was glib. He could beryllium very fierce pinch nan different males connected nan team, but not truthful overmuch pinch me. He was a small softer pinch me."

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Conti was a trailblazer arsenic a 29-year-old lawyer and nan only female connected Gacy's decease statement defense team. 

"The different point that was really absorbing was his consciousness of humor," she said. "Because, though evidently thing he did was funny, he utilized his consciousness of joke to benignant of deflect distant from nan darker broadside of him and to get group to for illustration him.

"And I deliberation that was 1 of his devices successful doing his crimes. These group (like Gacy) are very manipulative and very willing successful manipulating nan group astir them. And Gacy surely was that."

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John Wayne Gacy created this self-portrait of himself successful his "Pogo nan Clown" costume. (Steve Eichner/WireImage)

As he was being led to his death, Gacy told nan guards he wished they had nan electrical chair, she said during an April 2 question and reply connected "The Fuzzy Mic."

"And nan guards were like, ‘Why?’ And he was like, ‘Because past I’d inquire you to clasp my hand,'" Conti said. 

The acheronian joke and anecdote seemed to contradict Gacy's expected past words: "Kiss my a--." 

Turns retired that's conscionable an municipality myth. 

"I had a speech pinch nan prosecutor, who died a fewer months ago," Conti said, "and he was pinch Gacy erstwhile he died. And I asked him, ‘Did he really utter those words?’ And he said, ‘No.’"

In reality, he didn't opportunity anything. 

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A barren crippled of onshore is an uncomfortable reminder of nan "house of horrors" location of John Wayne Gacy that erstwhile stood there. (Bettmann Archive/Getty Images)

Her last belief of Gacy was that he wanted to beryllium caught by police, and he was "relieved" to beryllium down bars. Otherwise, he would termination again. 

"He was successful a frenzy (when he was arrested)," Conti said during nan "Fuzzy Mic" interview. "A batch of serial killers, they commencement retired sidesplitting erstwhile a year. Then, it ramps up. And they request much violence. They request much victims," Conti said. "So, I deliberation Gacy, astatine nan end, it was conscionable wearing astatine him.

"And I deliberation he knew if he was ever retired again, he would spell backmost to killing."

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Karen Conti, who was John Wayne Gacy's decease statement lawyer, said Gacy's joke stood retired successful their interactions.

Karen Conti, who was John Wayne Gacy's decease statement lawyer, said Gacy's joke stood retired successful their interactions. (Karen Conti)

She said he was sexually abused, had caput injuries arsenic a kid and had repressed homosexual tendencies. 

With nan murders, "I deliberation he was trying to almost termination himself complete and over," she said. 

"I deliberation he was trying to almost termination himself complete and over."

— Karen Conti

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Conti received decease threats, a explosive threat and astir tarnished her ain profession astatine 29 by taking Gacy's case, she said. 

After Gacy died, and years had passed, nan threats and evil looks turned into strangers' intrigue. 

Karen Conti's book, "Killing Time pinch John Wayne Gacy."

Karen Conti's book, "Killing Time pinch John Wayne Gacy." (Karen Conti)

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She's been a proceedings lawyer successful Chicago for 37 years, is simply a rule professor and now an writer who precocious published "Killing Time" astir her interactions pinch Gacy.

"It's much nan communicative of really a young lawyer takes connected this case, and pinch nan nationalist backlash, really I had to forge a narration pinch personification who was nan epitome of evil," Conti said astir her book. 

The book explores "how this personification (Gacy), who did nan astir inhumane acts you tin imagine, had humanity successful him and had a family who loved him."

Fox News Digital's Emmett Jones contributed to this report. 

Chris Eberhart is simply a crime and US news newsman for Fox News Digital. Email tips to [email protected] aliases connected Twitter @ChrisEberhart48.

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